Liberty, Freedom, what's the difference? Democracy, pure democracy as was practiced for centuries, provides freedom. This meant, that each person, group was "free" to do as they liked. This resulted in law, which tried to limit freedom. The results were not good. The law stifled freedom, until there was none. The law also spoke to groups of individuals, rather than the whole governed body. This was because "Factions" ruled. This is my concern as people push for "Direct Democracy". I believe Constitutional government is necessary. Certainly the administration of any government must be defined. Unless the people have control of the administration, it would become a despotical government in short order. Thus elected persons must administrate. Also, to elect proportionately, a republican form of government is necessary. Meaning each area, town, county etc is sovereign, but subservient to the central government. My knowledge to parliament is limited, however I believe it also follows a "Constitution, is a" republic" in that each town or city or county has it's own 'government', yet is united in action with the main government.


Factions are groups of industrialists, the elite, religions, various groups, a majority which influence government for their own benefit, not the whole of the governed. To even consider minority people, races, age, sex, affluence, etc. a Constitution defining how these minorities would be delt with was necessary.


Liberty, on the other hand, was defined by Constitutions, and was a fiduciary agreement between the governed and the government. This is what citizenship is all about. As Citizens, we agree to utilize government courts to settle disputes, rather than "freely" settle disputes by violence, coercion etc. We also agree to behave according to the virtues and principles defined by the Constitution. These principles are the core of government, and indeed, any law, which conflicts with the Constitution, is void. Thus, by practicing these principles and virtues of the Constitution, the individuals subscribing to this government will violate no "law". It would be impossible to know all the "laws", as they are numerous. Law is the method, to enforce the principles of the constitution.


Some governments have an "unwritten" Constitution. Their "Constitution" is the human values of the people. These values are often referred to as "Truth's" which have been the virtues practiced by humankind since the beginning of time, as they worked in partnership to co-exist.






Propaganda Anyone?


August 9, 1999 Courtesy Ken @ Brasscheclk ( you might want to sign up for his news letter, Brass Check - http:// www.brasscheck.com .)


New propaganda arm for US Apparently not satisfied by its ability to delay the reporting of obvious events and circumstances for MONTHS, the Clinton administration is commissioning a brand new propaganda department to better coordinate its "message" for the next war.


**This is why you cannot believe "the news" as it is lies lies lies...


Q: Why does the US government need an even firmer control over war reporting than it already enjoys.


A: To counter those wiley Serbs! (and US,,,, on other covert operations,,,)


Quote from 8/8/99 AP story:


"President (Slobodan) Milosevic has an extensive propaganda machine," (David) Leavy said. "We've worked very hard to try to counteract that propaganda machine, and make sure the people in Serbia and in Kosovo have access to their own news..."


David Leavy is spokesman for the White House's National Security Council

ha --- as we read below, who is prop-ing who?


Govt Unit to Control Flow of US News

By Anne Gearan Associated Press Writer

Sunday, August 8, 1999; 12:17 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Clinton administration, dismayed by the success of anti-American propaganda worldwide, is striking back with an information offensive of its own: a State Department unit that will control the flow of government news overseas, especially during crises.


The new International Public Information group, or IPI, will coordinate the dissemination of news from the State Department, Pentagon and other U.S. agencies.


"What this is intended to do is organize the instruments of the federal government to be able to support the public diplomacy, military engagements and economic initiatives that we have overseas," said David Leavy, spokesman for the White House's National Security Council.


In the recent Kosovo war, the Pentagon, State Department and White House poured out information each day but no single agency tried to assemble it so that the United States spoke with a coordinated message overseas.*


· And foreign journalists had the temerity to do their own research and draw their own conclusions. Outrageous!


The group came about partly in response to the spread of unflattering or erroneous information about the United States received abroad via electronic mail, the Internet, cellular telephones and other communications advances.*


· Say what?


In many respects, the new information group is a smaller, less structured successor to the independent U.S. Information Agency, which the State Department will absorb in October.*


· Right, just an informal bull session among just plain folks.


A new office of undersecretary of state for public diplomacy will run the IPI. The current USIA director, Evelyn Lieberman, has been nominated for the job.


President Clinton signed a directive April 30, in the thick of the Kosovo war, that set out plans for IPI, although the White House did not formally announce the group's existence or role.


An unclassified mission statement obtained by The Associated Press described IPI's role:


"Effective use of our nation's highly developed communications and information capabilities to address misinformation and incitement, mitigate inter-ethnic conflict, promote independent media organizations and the free flow of information, and support democratic participation will advance our interests and is a critical foreign policy objective," the document said.


Joan Mower, director of Latin American and African programs for the Freedom Forum, said she worries the coordinated effort may filter information that should be broadly available to foreign reporters.


"My feeling is that the more information is out there, the better," she said.


The IPI will hold its first formal meeting this fall, said a government official involved in the process. Clinton's directive orders officials at the Pentagon, FBI, CIA and the departments of State, Commerce and Treasury to organize the group.


Regular members will be senior diplomats and others in foreign policy or national security jobs in Washington, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.


The rationale for IPI dates at least to the confusion and bad press surrounding U.S. intervention in Haiti in 1994-1995, but Kosovo is the best recent example of how the United States needs to fight a propaganda war in concert with military strikes, officials said.


"President (Slobodan) Milosevic has an extensive propaganda machine," Leavy said. "We've worked very hard to try to counteract that propaganda machine, and make sure the people in Serbia and in Kosovo have access to their own news-that they can make their own independent judgments."


Anti-American sentiment ran high during the 78-day air war, even among Yugoslavs* who did not support the Yugoslav president. Many Europeans also were leery of the airstrikes, seen as a U.S. enterprise, and reluctant to level hefty military power against a modern European capital.


· Can you imagine that? The US was bombing their country and Yugoslavs developed "Anti-American sentiment." What's wrong with those people?


The air war that ended in June also produced one of the worst diplomatic and public relations disasters in recent memory when a U.S. plane mistakenly bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade on May 7, killing three Chinese journalists.


Outraged mobs rushed the American Embassy in Beijing, trapping then-Ambassador James Sasser inside for a time. It was days before the United States could get its official apology before the Chinese people at large, and the U.S. explanation was greeted with disdain by both the Chinese government and the rock-throwing street mobs.


The Communist Party's flagship newspaper, the People's Daily, called the war and the embassy bombing "a great step in the United States' strategy to dominate the world."


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